Curse

Cummins Turbo Diesel · Mar 22, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Im running sabway with myself being a SS necro.
So that leaves me with a free Hero slot.
Me - SS necro
Olias - MM
Whispers - Resto

What build should I bring for my 3rd hero?? I have all skills unlocked.
Also what henchies do u recomend I use. I'm bearly going to start playing in Hard mode.
Thanks for the help.

infamous16 · Mar 22, 2009, 01:41 AM // 01:41

When I run one of the builds that a hero usually runs, I bring a [icy veins] hero

sickle of carnage · Mar 22, 2009, 01:42 AM // 01:42

I run SS and have my hero run SS anyway, but with variations in the build to achieve maximum damage

Cummins Turbo Diesel · Mar 22, 2009, 01:59 AM // 01:59

Would a Searing heat Elem go good with this? Or not in HM?

subarucar · Mar 22, 2009, 02:20 AM // 02:20

AoE nukes are crap damage wise in HM. I would get the last hero to run something with skills like Icy Veins and Putrid Bile. Or change your own build to an AP build similiar to the one used with Discordway.

talisk3 · Mar 22, 2009, 02:27 AM // 02:27

[Broad Head Arrow] ranger would help.
If you want more support a earth magic elementalist would help.

Cummins Turbo Diesel · Mar 22, 2009, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Anyone got a build that a Hero can run with Icy Viens?

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 22, 2009, 05:07 AM // 05:07

since it's soul reaping, u can go into w/e u want. death magic for some dmg, conditions, maybe more minions. curse for more shutdown and degen pressure. blood for wells and life steal dmg. just improvise ;-)

.HunTer · Mar 22, 2009, 05:49 AM // 05:49

I'm SS necro and I use this build on my 3rd hero:
[IV;OANTUWj+Uqm50RBMBMgoeoqSmA]
Soul Reaping: 11+1+2
Death: 11+1
Protection: 10

Works very well

dasmitchies · Mar 22, 2009, 07:23 AM // 07:23

When I run my necro, instead of bringing another necro I brink Dunkoro as a Smite/Ray type. It helps immensly.

SmokingHotImolation · Mar 22, 2009, 10:07 AM // 10:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by subarucar

AoE nukes are crap damage wise in HM. I would get the last hero to run something with skills like Icy Veins and Putrid Bile. Or change your own build to an AP build similiar to the one used with Discordway.

IV deals cold damage, so there's really no difference.

Alex Dimitri · Mar 22, 2009, 11:24 AM // 11:24

@OP

If u have EOTN get Livia and make triple Discord build (u can get a lot of builds on PVXWIKI) it kicks ass in HM (and demolishes everything in NM) even better than the Subway!

Joseph Spiritmaster · Mar 22, 2009, 11:40 AM // 11:40

If you need the extra healing, toss in another N/Rt Healer works.... i usually run

Rt/R (me) Splinter Volley
N/Rt Healer with WoR and Life
N/Rt Healer with Xinraes Wep and Rejuv
Rt/N MM Explosive Bomber (AotL or Jagged, doesnt matter)

Works wonders for me.

MattJJ · Mar 23, 2009, 05:15 AM // 05:15

You could run as a mop nuker while letting the heroes be sabway.

http://pvx.wikia.com/wiki/Build:N/A_Mark_of_Pain_Nuker

at least thats what i'm doing and i use my own variants.

wilebill · Mar 23, 2009, 12:28 PM // 12:28

You could run a Paragon with Support. Or, add a warrior! Or, even (gasp!) add Gwen! A Dunkoro with Ray of Judgement Smiting Build for even more condition and hex removal.

I run Sabway in HM with my characters. But on occasion, a non-necro hero in one slot or another can make more sense depending on the map.

brakner · Mar 23, 2009, 03:36 PM // 15:36

When I play my Nec I run him as SS / MoP, ctr-clk MoP then tab for SS

N/Rt Curses Me
[build prof=N/Rt sou=9+1 cur=12+1+1 prot=9][Spiteful Spirit][Mark of Pain][Enfeebling Blood][Barbs][Weaken Armor][Necrosis][Signet of Lost Souls][Aegis][/build]

N/Rt Healer Livia
[build prof=N/Rt sou=8+1+1 res=12 cha=10][ Xinrae's Weapon][Weapon of Warding][Mend Body and Soul][Spirit Light][Protective Was Kaolai][Life][Splinter Weapon][Death Pact Signet][/build]

N/Mo Jagged Bomber’s Olias , Masters

[build prof=N/Mo death=12+1+3 sou=9+1 hea=9][Jagged Bones][Animate Bone Minions][Death Nova][Putrid Bile][Infuse Condition][Foul Feast][Dwayna's Sorrow][Signet of Lost Souls][/build]

[build prof=N/Mo death=12+1+3 sou=8+1 prot=10][Jagged Bones][Animate Bone Minions][Death Nova][Putrid Bile][Shield of Absorption][Protective Spirit][Aegis][Signet of Lost Souls][/build]

I run 2 MM’s with Minions because its the same for corpses as a single Horror/Fiends MM and 20 Minions makes for a huge wall and massive Nova deaths heh. Not to mention Mark of Pain, Barbs and Splinter Weapon is just sick with 20 minions

I also run a Discord varient that has Discord on them and I still retain my Curses for condition/hex marking

Coney · Mar 23, 2009, 10:21 PM // 22:21

How about a [ray of judgment] monk with something like [dwayna's sorrow]? Would seem to be a nice AOE damage/healer with condition/hex removal, without the scatter...

Super Igor · Mar 23, 2009, 10:28 PM // 22:28

Run another Resto or RoJ, but for a necro I would recommend AP Ebon Sin spiker instead of SS and Discord heroes instead of sabway.

Paul Dawg · Mar 28, 2009, 05:50 AM // 05:50

Monks with [dwayna's sorrow] naturally go very well with Sabway, but if he's already bringing the Sabway resto, I think it's a waste of firepower to use another hero slot on a second healer. The monk henchmen are usually good enough. (Of course, if you're vanqing with a friend, you definitely want your friend to bring a [dwayna's sorrow] healer as one of his three heroes.)

When I have an open hero slot in the Sabway set, I usually bring a command para. Things like ["Go for the eyes!"] work very well with minions. The command para in the standard para hero team works fine. I also have a patented little domination mesmer who shuts down casters.

Lastly, whoever recommended [icy veins]--what? That's horrible in Hard Mode.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coney

How about a [ray of judgment] monk with something like [dwayna's sorrow]? Would seem to be a nice AOE damage/healer with condition/hex removal, without the scatter...

Coney · Mar 28, 2009, 04:22 PM // 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Dawg

Lastly, whoever recommended [icy veins]--what? That's horrible in Hard Mode.

Actually, it works pretty well on a N/Rit healer (12+1+1 soul reaping, 12 resto)...